Monday, October 05, 2009

DJs that sell their records after converting them to MP3 are breaching copyright law?
Earlier today, one of the local hiphop folk I follow popped up on Twitter with this interesting wee question... "Do DJ's that sell their records after converting them to MP3 realise they are breaching copyright laws?" (from Sen Thong aka Khmer1 - thanks for bringing this up!)

I did a quick Google search  (and asked on Twitter) and uncovered section 81a of the current copyright law (as passed in late 2008), which says that you can copy say, vinyl to MP3  but "You must retain ownership of both the sound recording and any copy". This also applies to you if you sell off your CDs after digitising them for your iPod.


Prior to this becoming law in October 2008, it was illegal in NZ to copy your cds/vinyl to MP3.

Now, here's the interesting part  - "the copy is used only for that owner’s personal use or the personal use of a member of the household in which the owner lives or both".

So, say you're a club DJ, and you've digitised your vinyl and then sold it, and are playing in a club one Saturday night, are you breaking the law?

Sure, you're no different from the iPod-toting hordes who bought the Apple device, digitised their CDs then sold them at Real Groovy (I asked on Twitter if any of the folk following me had digitised their CDs then sold them - they had mostly kept them as a backup, although a few regretted just how much space their music collections consumed). But as a DJ, you're not using those MP3s for personal use only.  Does APRA/RIANZ PPNZ performance fees from venues cover this?

Curious to find out more on this one. Any music lawyers care to weigh in?

ADDED Have put in requests for information on this to APRA and RIANZ/PPNZ.  Stay tuned. It may take a while to get a response as the NZ Music Awards are on this week.

UPDATE 1: This response is from Mark Roach, General Manager Licensing, at Phonographic Performances New Zealand (PPNZ). Thanks for the prompt reply, Mark.

"PPNZ has always taken the approach that DJs format shifting for the purposes of effciency and backing up large music collections, especially vinyl, is a legitimate part of being a DJ and does not require licensing.

Premises should have a PPNZ Public Performance Licence which would cover them for the playing of all music on their premises, i.e. whether by a DJ, by the premises’ own background music system or other. This licence is the responsibility of the premises – not the DJ. If DJs have any concerns about a particular premises, they are always welcome to check the premises status with our licensing reps (info@ppnz.co.nz or 0800 88 PPNZ).

The only proviso we have is that DJs are only using music for their own DJ sets, i.e. if they are servicing their music collections to premises for use as a regular background music system, or to other DJs as a business service then they would require licensing as a music service provider.

I’m not sure the same rule applies with AMCOS (who look after the reproduction of musical works) but they can better advise you this themselves.

One small correction to the blog also – licensing of sound recording copyrights is the domain of PPNZ, not RIANZ (the two organisations are not the same thing)."

UPDATE 2: This response from Rebekah Nolan at AMCOS/APRA...

"Any copying of music over and above the personal use is not covered by the [Copyright] Act and needs to be licensed...

... there are two copyrights that need to be licensed: the underlying musical work (or "publishing" rights); and the sound recording (or "master" rights). APRA|AMCOS represents songwriters and composers so we can issue licences for the publishing rights, whereas PPNZ can issue licences for sound recordings.

APRA|AMCOS has a Casual Blanket Licence for compiling and supplying audio recordings for the purpose of providing a background music service. If you are transferring music from one source (e.g. vinyl, CD or digital download to a hardrive or mp3 player) then you will need this licence.

If you are simply playing existing CDs/vinyl on a turntable, or your downloads are going directly to the hardrive or mp3 player that you use for gigs, then you won't need this licence as there is no actual format shift involved."




UPDATE 3: So the answer to the question "you're a club DJ, and you've digitised your vinyl and are playing in a club one Saturday night (public use as opposed to personal use), are you breaking the law?" No, as long as the venue has paid its relevant performance licences to APRA/AMCOS and PPNZ.

As for my original question (in full) "you're club DJ, and you've digitised your vinyl and then sold it, and are playing in a club one Saturday night, are you breaking the law?" The copyright law is pretty clear on that. "You must retain ownership of both the sound recording and any copy". Boom.


UPDATE 4: Okay, I've crossed out the first part of update 3, as it's been pointed out to me that it's incorrect. I'm still seeking further clarification on the answer in full from AMCOS/APRA.

So to the question "you're a club DJ, and you've digitised your vinyl and are playing in a club one Saturday night (public use as opposed to personal use), are you breaking the law?"

There's a few parts to this. The performance rights are covered by performance licences paid by the venue to APRA (songwriting rights) and PPNZ (sound recording rights).

On the copying for public performance, Im still awaiting clarification. But, it appears that AMCOS/APRA require you (the DJ) to pay a licence if you want to transfer your vinyl to MP3 and play it in public.

More soon.


UPDATE 5: I've got further clarification from APRA/AMCOS on this. AMCOS/APRA do require you (the DJ) to pay a licence if you want to transfer your vinyl to MP3 and play it in public.

From APRA/AMCOS: "A DJ who digitises their vinyl to mp3, then goes and DJs at a bar or club, needs to get a licence to do so, as they have made a reproduction of the works from one format to another and are then using that system in a commercial venture (not just for personal use).
 
If they are currently playing in a club using mp3s digitised from their own vinyl without a licence, they are in breach of copyright. APRA/AMCOS follow up and have the authority to issue infringement notices, and educate.
   
If you are copying music from any format to any other system or format for commercial or business purposes, then you do need a licence for the reproduction of that music. This includes DJs copying their vinyl to use as mp3s."

This position is in distinct contrast to PPNZ's more pragmatic take , which is that "PPNZ has always taken the approach that DJs format shifting for the purposes of effciency and backing up large music collections, especially vinyl, is a legitimate part of being a DJ and does not require licensing."

Sunday, October 04, 2009

Quick hits
1. Spotted via Real Groove on Twitter:  It's not file sharers killing music it's majors illegally selling mp3s. eg: Edwyn Collins. Read it here
2. If you're from NZ and are new to Twitter, Real Groove have out together  a list of some of the folks from the NZ music scene who are using Twitter.  Check it here.
Journalist Bill Bennett has compiled a similar list of NZ magazines and media people on Twitter, over here.
3. DJ Ian Head drops his October 2009 mix entitled Good ‘Ol Soul (For Carlos), which is dedicated to Carlos Alvarez. (Via Crate Kings)
4. Stay tuned for a new feature coming on my blog, early next week. It's all about record fans and their favourite record stores. First up: one of our top hiphop DJs.
5. I know it aint music-related, but I dig this: Sesame St does Mad Men.

Saturday, October 03, 2009

Ring The Alarm playlist, BaseFM, Saturday Oct3
Brother Culture  -Warning
International observer  -The international pt 1&2
Jah Batta - I dont want to wait
Pinchers - Bandolero
Julian Marley feat Damian Jr Gong Marley - Violence in the streets
Tenor fly - Mind weh u seh
DJ Vadim - Soldier feat Foreign Beggars remix
Quantic and his Combo Barbaro - Linda Morena
Baker brothers - Shack up
Breakestra - Show you the way
Fulgence - Tribute to Masekela
Jackie Mittoo - Wall street
Serge Gainsbourg - Aux armes ectectera
J Period and K'Nann - My country/small axe (Messangers remix)
Unitone hifi - Sneeze off
Cesaria Evora - Angola (Carl Craig remix)
Tony Allen/Jimi Tenor  -Selfesh gene
Black velvet - An earthquake's coming
Lord Newborn and the magic skulls-  Dime bag conspiracy
Revolutionaries - Kunta Kinte (DJ Kentaro remix)
Ernest Ranglin and Jungle Bros - Funky Bond st
Kenny Dope and Madd Racket - Supa
Rebel MC feat Tenor Fly - Wickedest sound (Don Gorgon mix)
Dub asylum - Ba ba boom!
Tony Allen - Ole (Moritz von Oswald remix)

Friday, October 02, 2009

Conch Records on sale!
Kicks off tomorrow, Saturday. "Just letting you all know about our sale on this Sat 3rd Oct. Up to 75% off selected items including Vinyl, CD's, T.Shirts, Books and more.We will also be putting out a whole load of records for $5 - new and second hand. Be early!!"

Wednesday, September 30, 2009

Quick hits

1. Every few months I post up yet another installment in the media's "Oh look, vinyl is making a resurgence" story. This latest one is a slight twist  - it's former record store owners making a comeback, still selling records, from their aparments. See the NY Times "Record Stores: Out of Sight, Not Obsolete".

2. DJ Ian Head has a ton of great mixtapes, all going free on his site.  All come with liner notes too, serious tunes.

3. Also spied this over at Ian's site, a new project from Money Mark (with Shawn Lee and Tommy Guerrrero), called Lord Newborn and the Magic Skulls, seriously funky stuff. Check it here.

4. If you're on Twitter, their new-ish TOS allows "worldwide, nonexclusive, royalty-free license" to anything posted, FYI http://bit.ly/3pSfIQ

Tuesday, September 29, 2009

Auckland City Council wiped out BPM Records
Local music svengali Simon Grigg has a long involvement with the music scene here in Auckland, from running a record label to co-owning the wonderful Box and Cause Celebre nightclubs. So, naturally, he has been taking an interest in the latest brainfart from the Auckland City Council, on severely limiting the opening hours of bars and clubs across the city. Thankfully, after a huge outcry from the affected bars, this silly idea has been dropped. You can read Simon's thoughts on the Council's approach to our city's nightlife over here.

snip... "Norman Jay and I were talking a few weeks back about the first time we'd met, many years back, when we bought him to NZ. He'd said how much he'd enjoyed the wide and invigorating nightlife in the city after his time in Australia. We talked about the talent our adventurous nightlife had nurtured....OMC (out of South Auckland but via the city), Nathan Haines, P-Money, Che Fu, Emerson Todd, Mark de Clive Lowe and so on. It's launched radio stations that define large parts of the city..George FM, Base FM and fed talent to 95bFm.... We have wonderful late night eateries and hang-outs that bubble and do so much for the soul of the city.  And all of this exists despite the Auckland Council..."

Simon goes on to talk about his own run-in with the Auckland City Council, which wiped out his shop, BPM Records. It's a grim story.
Istanbul
New post up over at Dust and Grooves, this time record digging in Istanbul. Jealous much? Yes! Read it here.

Monday, September 28, 2009



Don't let it get you down
Between the end of the 2nd World War and 1977, there were only three feature films made in New Zealand, all the work of one man, John O'Shea, who produced and directed them. One of these was the 1966 comedy musical called Don't Let It Get You, set around a pop festival in Rotorua, headlined by Howard Morrison. The film's title song was sung by him. The film follows various musical beat combos making their way to Rotorua,  and it seem that every time they stop for gas or  a pie, they leap out of their cars and burst into song, as you do. It's a delightful film, see it if you get the chance. I'm hoping some clever cat at Maori TV decides to run it (hint hint).

Watch the film's trailer here, and read more about the film here.

Amongst the extensive media coverage of Sir Howard's passing was a list of quotes, compiled by the NZ Herald. My favourite was Sir Howard's comments in 2005 on our trans-Tasman cousins...

"It's a peculiar situation in Australia, but one thing that has always been in is that anyone coffee-coloured or black doesn't fit into the culture that Australians feel comfortable with."
He also said Australia was: "keeping apartheid alive".
Read more here.

Saturday, September 26, 2009

Ring The Alarm playlist, Sept 26
Cheers to Rob from reggae band Three Houses Down for dropping by for an interview. Catch them playing live tonight in Auckland at 420, up on K Rd. (gig info)

Zapp - More bounce to the ounce
Memphis sounds - Do your thing
Quincy Jones - Soul saga
Breakestra - North-east to Nippon
Outlines -Waiting in line Inst
Sir Howard Morrison - Don't let it get you
Bigga Bush - Cool it (Don't give my name)
Ticklah vs Axelrod - Scatch to win
Reggie Stepper  - Drum pan sound
General Levy  -Sugarcane
Fulgence - Sour soca
Umod  -Mash up
Quantic -Cuidad del swing version
Glen Brown -  Wicked tumbling version
Rhythm and sound - What a mistry
Rob Swift, Bob James, D-styles- Salsa scratch
Staff benda billili - J'taime
 Scientist  -No dub island
Big youth - Jim screechy (Smith and Mighty remix)
LD  - Traumatic times
TM Juke and Jack Baker Trio - Heads high (TM Juke remix)
Jah Batta -Informa (watch it)
Jackie Mittoo - Darker shade of black
Maceo and the Macks  -Soul power 74
Kylie Auldist - One goodbye
Howard Morrison Quartet  -Haru ana

Friday, September 25, 2009


 
Jimi Tenor & Tony Allen get on the good foot
Strut Records series called Inspiration Information has come up with some unusual musical combinations, starting with pairing Sly & Robbie with Amp Fiddler, then Horace Andy with Ashley Beedle, and arguably the most successful combo, of Ethiopian music legend Mulatu with the Heliocentrics, which is definitely one of the must-have albums of this year, it's utterly brilliant. 

Next up, is former Fela Kuti drummer Tony Allen with Finnish muso/producer Jimi Tenor. 
Here's a tune from it, courtesy of Strut...
Jimi Tenor & Tony Allen- "Selfish Gene" (zshare) (mediafire)
Inspiration Information: In stores October 27th


Wednesday, September 23, 2009



Go Aberdoom!
Spied this over at Analog Giant, some cats from Aberdeen Scotland (or Aberdoom, as they call it on their Myspace page) "Long story short I don't know much about them. What I can tell you is that they have some great beat tapes that you certainly should check out. Nice neo-soul type sound to them.". Analog Giant has track for download here, or get their full tapes from their myspace here.

Tuesday, September 22, 2009



Cassette business cards
Damn, I need some of these! (Via Crate Kings)
"Music Man" Miles Tackett- Breakestra Classics DJ Mix 
All the best bits of Breakstra's funky back catalogue chopped and diced, Grab it here; (zshare) (mediafire).

"With tasteful scratches, doubled-up breakbeats, and slick transitions, Miles' mix offers a picture of some of his most crowd pleasing output covering Breakestra's original material, trademark covers, and even a few live rarities. "
 
Tracklist
1. Intro
2. Breakestra Suite #1 (DJ Azzuro & Kiyo)
3. Getcho Soul Togetha
4. Lil' Ol Money Maker
5. Funky Soul (Live In LA, 2000)
6. Gettin' To It
7. Don't Need A Dance
8. See Sawng
9. Take My Time feat. Choklate
10. Family Rap feat. DJ Dusk (Z Trip Scratch Edit)
11. Show 'N' Prove
12. A Word From Our Sponsor
 
Dusk Till Dawn: in stores September 29th on Strut http://www.breakestra-dusktilldawn.com

Monday, September 21, 2009

Thursday, September 17, 2009

New Breakestra!
Grab a new Breakestra tune over here.Niceness.
"The song we’ve chosen to post here – a Dee Felice Trio meets Charles Stephney by way of Ramsey Lewis circa Mother Nature’s Son jaunt entitled “You’ll Never Know” – is one of a trio of instrumentals on the album [Dawn Til Dusk, out end of September]. As with the entire album, the spirit of the late homey DJ Dusk looms large. It’s not a melancholic ride, rather an introspective one that feels triumphant by the close of the album."

Short Sharp Shopping mix
Last weekend I scored a ton of records - Conch Records had a sale for market day up in Ponsonby, and then D.O.C. on K Rd had  record fair. Bargains galore! So, here's a random mix of the tunes I bought, one-take styles. Starts off with some 80s funk, then hits mad cover versions, gets all modern and bleepy for a minute before going jazzy and finishing off with some dub. Enjoy!

Download it here 22 mins, 128k 20MB.




Tracklisting:
Gwen Guthrie - Rocking chair dub
Stylistics - Whats your name?
Cookin on 3 burners - Cars
Stanley Clarke - Born in the USA
Outlines - Waiting in line instrumental
Arken - Step off
Nostalgia 77 - My name is
Pigbag - Brazil nuts
Umod - Mash-up
Black seeds - Cool me dub >>Watch the funny US tour video from the Black Seeds - http://bit.ly/lfeF

Tuesday, September 15, 2009


Stonesthrow dropping bombs
Right now, the Stonesthrow record label is killing it, thanks to a young white kid from Detroit who goes by the name of Mayer Hawthorne. His album is called A Strange Arrangement, and came out Stateside Sept 8, and drops here on Sept 21. His album also comes as a ltd edition CD and 2/LP packaged w 4-inch vinyl single containing 2 non-album tracks. 2/LP with "alligator skin" cover. Seriously cool. There's a great interview with Mayer Hawthorne here. His sound aint a million miles from the new Open Souls album, similar Motown/soul influences coming thru.

Find out why he's getting such a buzz from this live review. He and his band "rolled mid-set into a live version of Slum Village’s “Fall In Love.” The Michigan-born bassist and guitarist supplied harmonies for Dilla’s haunting hook, while Mayer Hawthorne let a beyond-capacity crowd at L.A.’s The Roxy know that none of his rise would be possible without Dilla and Baatin."

Stonesthrow has also got this tasty delight from Egon - Live at the Do-over as a free mp3 download. "Egon DJed at L.A.’s Do-Over party this past Sunday. Nas and Beenie Man waited in line and couldn’t get in. We’re not kidding."

But wait, there's more! There's a free album download from Koushik, called the Beep Tape. 30 tracks of instrumentals.

The Stonesthrow website is a shining example of what a record label can do to communicate with their audience, and keep them engaged. It's their storefront, their diary, their press kit, their little goldmine. Genius. I could dig round their site for hours.


Image from Stonesthrow website, photo by Henry DeMaio.

Saturday, September 12, 2009

Ring The Alarm playlist Sept 12
My thanks to Tigi Ness of reggae band Unity Pacific for coming up to the show to talk about the Panther Party celebration on tonight at Samoa House, details here.

Tigi also talked about his involvement with the Polynesian Panthers here in Auckland back in the early 70s, including their Dawn Raids on govt ministers of the day, including one where he and his mates drove out to Pakuranga to Immigration Minister Bill Birch's house at 3am, and turned their spotlights on the house and pulled out their megaphones and said "Mister Bill Birch, come out with your passport".

The lights went on inside the house, then the front door flew open and out came Mr Birch. They all raced to their cars and took off. Two weeks later the Government stopped the dawn raids.

Tigi got kicked out of Mt Albert Grammar at 17 for refusing to cut his hair - he had an afro, inspired by Jimi Hendrix. He joined the Panthers about that time too.

There's a great book on the history of the Polynesian Panthers that was published by Reed Publishing in 2006, called Polynesian Panthers. Track it down if you want to learn more about them. It's a fascinating chapter in our history. (NZ Herald article on the book, here)


Miles Davis -So what (Shoes reggae mix)
E's E -Scratch's skank pt 1
Barrington Levy - Reggae music dub
Groove corp meets Twilight circus feat Luciano -What we gotta do now
Jo Jo Bennett - Canteloupe rock
Bill Withers - Use me
Freddie Cruger - Running from love
Major Lazer - Can't stop now
Kinny and Horne - Why me
Mayer Hawthorne - Let me know
Azymuth - Estrada dos deuses (Recloose edit)
Isaac Aesili - Media
Unitone hifi - Sneeze off
Turbulence - Too jealous
Tiki -Burning fire (Oogun remix)
Cooly G - Love dub
Umod - Rest with you
Hypnotic brass ensemble - Balliki bone
Jean Jacques Perrey and Luke Vibert - You moog me
Jimi Tenor and Kabu Kabu - Higher styx
Bobby Byrd - Hot pants, I'm coming I'm coming
Snap - Sidewalk city
General Levy - Sugar cane
Grand magneto - Tainted love

Friday, September 11, 2009



Music Machines - local 84 styles
I recently mentioned the Music Machines event coming up on November 21st - a collection of classic synths and drum machines happening in Auckland. My mate Jason, who is putting this event together, has been researching the history of electronica in NZ (he's originally from the UK, and grew up there in the 80s and 90s, so it's all new to him). I put him onto another mate of mine, Tom Ludvigson, a wicked keyboard player who has been round the traps for a while.

Tom currently plays in Trip to The Moon amongst others, but back in 1984 he was involved in a collaboration with a group of Auckland musicians who cooked up NZ's first electro breakdance record -Sidewalk City, by Snap. I remembered I had a copy of it on vinyl, so I dug it out and digitised it for Jason. He's put it up on the music machines site, go have a listen, it's very cool.

From Music Machines: "Tom been a synth man for about 30 years and has been involved in many Auckland bands as a player and composer, head over to his site Jazzscore for more on Tom’s musical projects.

We were discussing the synth scene in the early 80’s, as this was when I first got in to hiphop and electro back in the UK, Tom remembered working on a track under the name “Snap” called “Sidewalk City” which Tom said had been influenced by the early electro coming out of the states at the time. I was aware of bands like Car Crash Set which seemed to be influenced more by the darker side of synth music at the time and wasn’t aware of any US influenced electro coming out of NZ from the early 80’s, I had to hear it....

.... I thought I’d ask Tom for any recollections of the session as I’m fascinated by all the elements which make up the track, particularly the mc vocal and the layers of synths and techniques used in the production.

“Recalling the session, recorded to 24track tape at Harlequin Studios, a few things stick out:

  • The musicality of the “Triangle” production team of Graeme Gash, Paul Streekstra and Noel Connolly;
  • The experimental the-studio-as-an-instrument approach;
  • The trial-and-error art of overdubbing Polysix arpeggiator lines in sync with the track without the benefit of hard sync: first tweak the arpeggiator tempo knob until it sounds right, then trigger it exactly on time, every time. It worked with repeated drop-ins…;
  • Borrowing a just-released Oberheim OB-X polysynth to do state-of-the-art sounding overdubs for the extended dance mix;
  • Four of us jamming the extended dance mix at the 24-track console, eight hands together tweaking sliders and delay buttons for a dubby atmospheric mix.”

Thursday, September 10, 2009

Duke Vin & the Birth of Ska
That's the name of an independent film from the UK, sounds wicked. Came out last year, not sure if it has had wider release. Duke Vin & the Birth of Ska trailer below...

Duke Vin, Count Suckle & the Birth of Ska in Britain - trailer from AdamPellinDeeve on Vimeo.



"London in the 1950’s was a cold place in more ways than the obvious. Or so it appeared if you were one of the thousands of newly arrived Jamaicans. Many were overqualified for their menial jobs. Thousands of others quite simply could not get work. Discrimination and racial tensions culminated in fierce riots in both Nottingham and Notting Hill Gate.

It was in this environment that the Jamaican soundmen; Duke Vin and Count Suckle arrived in the UK. They both stowed away on a boat from Kingston and brought with them a sound that was sweeping across the small Caribbean island and would later change the face of music in the UK. This was the sound of ska!"

Great interview with the film's director, Gus Berger.


Official site for the film.

Wednesday, September 09, 2009

Chromeo break it down
Montreal duo Chromeo breaks down their DJ-Kicks mix, check this video.




"In an interview around their first DJ mix and the first DJ-Kicks release in two years, the duo talk about their late exposure to quality electronic music, P-Thugg's demotion to the bass guitar, the email which convinced Trevor Jackson to do the album cover, Dave 1's relative ignorance of the Eagles catalog, and what their cover of "I Can't Tell You Why" has in common with a number of Hall & Oates hits... Appropriately, given Montreal's rich history as a disco hotspot, there's a French Canadian theme woven loosely into the mix..."

Turns out one of them used to sell digeridoo's out of the back of his car before they started up Cromeo. Keeping it real.

If you want to check out their cover of The Eagles' "I Can't Tell You Why", grab it from their site. Chromeo - DJ Kicks is out Sept 29.
" Jay-Z when he was good"
Last week I saw DJ Ayres pop up on Twitter and start bagging the new Jay-Z album Blueprint 3. Like a lot of hiphop cats out there on dem innernetz, he wasn't feeling Jay's new stuff. So he said he was gonna go and dig out all the old tunes of Jay-Z's from back in the day. True to his word, he's dropped the mix over at The Rub, called D.O.J: when Jay was good. (the DOJ bit is a play on Jay-Z's tune D.O.A short for death of autotune).

"... Since Jay “retired” and came back, his music hasn’t sounded as urgent or hungry to me. He sounds like he’s coasting along, so I wanted to go back and pull out a bunch of his music that made you bob your head, marvel at his flow, puff out your chest, or even raise the little hairs on the back of your neck.

Not included: #1 singles you’ve heard a million times, lazy one-take flows, lyrics about inventing the button-down shirt, songs dissing rappers who would later be signed to Jay-Z’s label, and songs produced by Eminem.
"

Download it here. I'm not up on Jay's early stuff, so I'm looking forward to getting educated on it.

Tuesday, September 08, 2009



NZ Music Awards reinvented

The NZMA's are often cause for controversy, who gets thru, who misses out in the nominations, etc. Witness the latest blog from Stuff.co.nz/Dominion Post writer Simon Sweetman, bemoaning this years nominees. He takes issue with Midnight Youth ("They do nothing to promote New Zealand music in their sound"), P-Money, Ladyhawke, and this gem about Smashproof - "They do nothing to promote a realistic portrait of what happens in New Zealand within their sound and they have nothing original to say. They have also helped promote the Amy Winehouse-wannabe that is Gin Wigmore..." Go and read the comments under his blog post, very amusing...

But there is one way that might make the event a bit more exciting - have the contestants battle it out in the ring. Three rounds, no holds barred. Wrestling or boxing maybe. Or as was suggested by Real Grooves editor Duncan Grieve, make it similar to the UFC fights.

Then I came up with this idea - make it a freestyle MC battle. Think about it. Best solo artist fight-out is between Savage and Don McGlashan, except Don has to do Savage and vice versa. Now Don McGlashan, let me hear you SWIIIINNNGGG! And Savage is off to the hotdog house halfway down Dominion Rd...

As @realgroove said "Comedy Gold. I think Don interpolating Savage's growl would be a key moment. All the awards should be decided like this ... would like to see the Legacy award winners go at it. Johnny Devlin vs Ray Columbus. boom."

Now, imagine the best solo female artist category - Ladi6 vs Ladyhawke. Or how about Fat Freddys vs Mint Chicks for best group? Awesome. Hey C4, make it happen, yeah?