Monday, July 27, 2020

Trevor Reekie interview from the archives



From Murray Cammick's weekly column at Xtra.co.nz, Wednesday May 10, 2000.

In the first week of June, a compilation of artists from the indie Antenna label "If Licks Could Kill" will be released. Antenna was founded in 1996 by Pagan Records as the Pagan label had become pigeon-holed as a "roots" label with artists like the success of artists like the Warratahs, Chicago Smokeshop, Al Hunter and Paul Ubana Jones. Antenna is positioned as a "cutting edge" label for alternative, lo-fi, dub etc. Artists on the label's first compilation include Eye TV, Darcy Clay, Tadpole, Voom, Trip to the Moon, Pluto, Cosa, Dub Asylum and Mr. Reliable.

I had a coffee with Pagan and Antenna founder Trevor Reekie to get his thoughts on the state of record-making nation, as Trevor has shaped Pagan since Mirage Film Studio started the label in 1985. He ran Pagan with partner Sheryl Morris from 1988 (when Mirage went bust) until the mid-90s when Tim Moon took over as Trevor's business partner.

In the 80s Pagan was known for its No.1 pop hits by the Holidaymakers (Sweet Lovers), Tex Pistol (Game Of Love) and The Parker Project (Tears On My Pillow). Other artists to get started on Pagan include Greg Johnson (Isabelle), Shihad (Devolve) and the Strawpeople (Have A Little Faith).

MC: You don't record contemporary pop now, like teen singers, boy bands?


Trevor: There's nothing to say we wouldn't if we liked it, but vacuous pop is best left in the hands of vacuous record companies. This year we will have chart success. Times have changed, it was easier to have a hit back in the 80s, there were only two TV shows and two FM channels and people used to buy singles.

MC: Isn't it easier with NZ On Air video grants etc?


Trevor: Those grants make life easier to set up a single and help finance a video but they don't make it any easier for the single to get to No.1. The main difference now is that marketing spend is a huge part of a successful record. In the 80s perhaps a record could stand on its own merits a bit more.

MC: Do you do the A&R? [record biz term "Artist & Repertoire" which means look for and nurture talent.]
Trevor: Tim Moon and I both do A&R. My role is now easier because Tim has come on board and put business structures in place and we formally sign artists. He's got an A&R role and a finely tuned sense of marketing. The workload is distributed over two people.

MC: In the early days did you not have contracts with your artists?


Trevor: We had verbal agreements or one page letters of intent which didn't really stand-up once a cheque book was flashed in front of people's noses.

MC: You had success with Shona Laing (Glad I'm Not A Kennedy) in New Zealand, Australia (via Virgin) and the USA (TVT Records).


Trevor: It cost a hell of a lot of money.

MC: Didn't you get it back from sales?

Trevor: No. It didn't sell enough. To succeed in Australia is always the same, you have to go and live there. For an artist to break into the UK or the USA it requires more than going to live there. You have to have this huge machine behind you. The machine has to see a return on their investment and they have to be coerced into making that investment.

MC: Do you still have an eye on overseas success?
Trevor: Yes. I can see a band like Tadpole appealing to an international audience. And Pluto. It's really a question of finding the right people in the machine to say, "Yeah, I like this act."

MC: How do you sign new acts?

Trevor: Pluto, for example we became aware of because they were friends of Dave, our studio engineer. I fell in love with the guy's voice and his words. We met with them, we felt we could work with them, they were nice guys. That's always crucial that we can work with them. Then it's a matter of sussing out a deal, not only rights-wise but financially too.

MC: Do you see growth ahead for indie labels?


Trevor: I think I do. The function of an indie label is to pick up on artists that otherwise would be overlooked by a major multi-national label. I think the majors want to encourage the indie's nurturing role. Motivation and potential can be measured at an indie level. Quite often the level of expectation at a major label is too high. An example of that is Eye TV . . . 10 years of association and three albums before a Top 10 hit. I couldn't see a major label hanging in that long?

MC: Would musicians be that patient nowadays?


Trevor: Well, if their motivation is their belief and the artist is still believing in themselves. Yes.

MC: Major labels think "throw money at it" is the answer and so do most musicians.


Trevor: I think that's a fallacy, throwing unlimited quantities of money at something doesn't guarantee success. One of the things we establish as an indie is that resources are limited, so that is written into our agreement.

Coffee time has to end as Trevor describes a very expensive video made for a local act by a major label as "one of the more astute pieces of folly I've seen lately."

Saturday, July 25, 2020

Ring The Alarm playlist, 25 July

Sly & Robbie - Fire
Khaled - Raba raba (Uproot Andy remix)
Chancha Via Circuito - Dancehall
Harry Beckett - Switch it up
Eru Dangerspiel - Backfoot
Nicolette - Single minded vocal
Mantronix - Scream
King Kapisi - Subcranium feeling (instrumental)
Gil Scott Heron - Grandma's hands
Charles Bradley - Lovin' you, baby
Jr Walker and the Allstars - Hip city Pt1&2
Wee Willlie Mason - Funky funky (hot pants)
Little Royal - Soul train
Herbie Hancock - Don't hold it in
Frantique - Get up and strut your funky stuff
Sheila E - The world is high
Snap - Sidewalk city
Moody Boyz - Free
Bacao Rhythm and Steel Band - My Jamaican dub
Dreadzone and Dubmatic - Dread lockdown
Tony Allen - N.E.P.A dance dub
Jimi Tenor - Vocalise my luv

Friday, July 24, 2020

Romano 7"




Out 24 July on 7"/digital....

"Romano (aka Lior Romano), the man behind the internationally acclaimed sound of Baharat, debuts his first solo record on the Batov Records exclusive Middle Eastern Grooves 7” Series.

Inspired by his roots and his upbringing, the record is a dialogue on a more personal level, representing a part of Lior so far unknown to the public. The music on this release is a thematic contrast to his previous Baharat releases, which are inspired by the liveliness of jamming together and creating a funky groove.

Nevertheless, it delivers the same joyful intensity! The album, which was completed at the end of 2019, was created with the help of friend and producer Orel Tamuz and it’s a musical snapshot of very different aspects of Lior’s life and showcases his multicultural upbringing.

Born to half-Turkish, half-Egyptian parents, and growing up in a Jewish household, Lior’s sound embraces his parents’ cultural heritage and his own musical background, mixing Turkish, Egyptian, and Greek folk music, surf and Mediterranean rock in a kaleidoscope of upbeat psychedelic groovy goodness.

The influence of Omar Souleyman and Aris San’s work is very present in Lior’s work and can be made out from the ululating keyboards and high-pitched melodies in staccato form respectively. Featuring a blend of Arabic and Western structures, very funky basslines and catchy melodies, this instrumental record is the embodiment of fun and carefree celebration of the joy of making music."

Wednesday, July 22, 2020

DLT interview (2000)

DLT

DLT: Doin' It For the Kids

by Jennifer Scott, NZ Musician, April/May 2000, vol8 no 8

ALTRUISM: 1. the principle or practice of unselfish concern for the welfare of others. 2. the philosophical doctrine that right action is that which produces the greatest effect to others. - Collins English Dictionary.

When talking to Daryl Thomson, aka DLT, it is clear that he views the world in terms that are distinctly black and white: there's good and there's evil; there's right and there's wrong; there's Altruism - the title of his new album - and there's egoism.

When it comes to music, if it's not formed from a basis of goodness, honesty, and yes, altruism, then for Daryl it's just not relevant.

It is these strong convictions which are the driving force behind DLT's work, and as the 1996 single Chains and his debut solo album ‘The True School' proved, hip hop can be all of these things - and popular too.

It's a pity John Dix's book on New Zealand music, ‘Stranded in Paradise' ends in 1988. It narrowly misses the genesis of a new wave of New Zealand music when a group of young Maori boys from Wellington took a traditionally American form of music, injected it with passion, spirituality and something uniquely Aotearoa. It would be interesting in ensuing chapters to trace the progress of these boys - Upper Hutt Posse - on the music scene in New Zealand as they kicked and clawed their way into an industry which was, and still is, predominantly rock and pop - and white.

In the years since UHP, Daryl has found a way to work within the local music industry - with his eyes wide open and his bullshit detector turned to 11.

"I'm here because I don't sleep on reality. I'm here because I don't sleep at all! It's a 24 hour a day struggle to just goddamn survive in this country."

But survive he has. Following Joint Force, a collaboration with MC OJ and Rhythm Slave, and working with the Stylee Crew/37 Degrees collective, Daryl was signed to BMG NZ as a solo artist. He is one of the only local acts to remain signed to the label which recently dropped Che Fu and has a publishing deal with BMG International. Being signed to a major label doesn't mean a major budget and Daryl is proud that ‘Altruism' - international contributors and all - came out of a house in suburban Auckland. So how does a track made in Grey Lynn get to New York?

"My publisher basically said I could have a look at the catalogue of artists that his company has and they would be more contactable than the dream list that I had. I had a list of 10 of my favourite artists, and the list of artists that are on the album - they're not the same list! But as I got on into it I realised that whether it was my 10 faves or 10 people that weren't my faves, it doesn't matter. I kinda like to prove to the non-believers that we can do a lot of different things, and I want to tell the young people who live here that it can be done from a bedroom in Grey Lynn. It's not just Chris Knox over there, there's other bedrooms in Grey Lynn that rock all around the world, like we've done. 

"We've done demos in that bedroom, burnt instrumentals onto CD, sent it overseas, got those CDs back into the bedroom from overseas, put it onto an ADAT, played it back into a computer, mixed and mastered it ready to go on the radio - all out of that room. The set up we use, I don't know what it's worth but it's probably under 50 grand - people's cars are worth more than that studio!"

The ‘bedroom' studio (actually just a room in a house - there's no bed!) belongs to engineer Nick Roughan. Daryl and Nick first worked together on UHP's debut single E Tu in Wellington in 1988. While Nick's background is in rock (he was a member of experimental/industrial Flying Nun band The Skeptics) and Daryl was a hip hopper, the two found they shared a disregard for musical rules.

"I started working with digital stuff and samplers in the mid-'80s doing freaky stuff with rock music with The Skeptics, which was a band that did not take convention seriously. While we come from different musical backgrounds we always knew we had a lot in common," says Nick.

On ‘Altruism' they have finally had the opportunity to explore that common ground with help on some tracks by Kevin Rangihunga. As producer, Daryl's main role is to drive the songs, shape them and bring the right ‘feel' into the studio.

"All I use is my ears, records and my ideas. My main tool is lying on the couch smoking! It's my creative ability - that's what I take to the studio. I'm not a tech-head, I hate samplers and stuff. Still, I have to know what the studio is capable of so I can tell the engineer what to do. I drive the process.

"It starts with a feeling I guess. I will draw back into a memory bank and remember the good feelings and the good sounds. I remember great moments through meditation and being poor and hungry and not able to move, not able to think in the modern world - you have to start from really humble places sometimes. That's my best draw, trying to remember discos when I was young and ‘What was that song I used to love? It had a cowbell in it'."

Nick says songs have grown from the two of them sitting down for half a day and listening to records. From that they might pick up a drum loop they like, mull it over and songs stem from that. "Sometimes we might use the loop, sometimes we replace it. It might get the juices flowing and then we might do a rough mix, chew it over for a wee while and at that stage it is sent overseas for the vocalist to add their vocals."
The vocalists used on ‘Altruism' range from New Yorkers Gravity on I'm Your MC, African Shabam Sahdeeq on Worldwide to local voices such as Kendall from Losttribe on Commonwealth Daryl says they all share his vision, giving the album a cohesive sound.

"I let them know what the kaupapa of the album is about, that is, where I'm heading mentally. It's got nothing to do with their songwriting, it's about the kaupapa of the whole thing, not just about the melodic arrangements or the words used. I basically gave them a brief background about myself and what I like and that's it. It's left open to interpretation."

So considering that he was working with people from other continents, was it easy to get songs back that fit this vision?

"It's kind of simple, you just take what you're given! We can't afford to pay the $30,000 a track to get Puffy on the album, you know what I mean. It's a different ballgame. I'd like to get one song back that worked so to get nine, 10, 11 back - that's a bonus."

The collaborations also mean that if Daryl ventures overseas, he is likely to find more doors open to him, but doesn't expect to become an international superstar.

"I'd like it to sell overseas, and there is definitely a work reason for these people being from these different territories and different languages and stuff, and that is to help it overseas. Basically if you help the kaupapa then the kaupapa will help you.

"The only thing I want to take overseas is my bank account and my babies. I want to live! It's not ‘I want to party, rock'n' roll man', it's none of that shit. I just want to be able to go to different countries and meet people with the same ideology."

Daryl says the key to creating a track that works is not just trying to please the ear but also the heart.
"It's really simple to add spirituality to the material world, it's a very simple process but it only works on faith. So the thing you do, you convince their heart, by the EQs you use, the sounds, the placement, the rhythms, everything. It allows you to go beyond the bounds of their material brick walls of young pretty girls and slick little angelic boys and stuff like that."

While a look at the top 20 and the "young pretty girls" and "slick angelic boys" who dominate it can be disheartening, it is not beyond reach he believes.

"Look, Chains had no titty shots, Chains had no making love to cameras, nothing false. The music got people's hearts. That's the power."

Daryl aims to lead by example. He is well aware of his role model status for young Maori and says he has maintained a musical career through sheer discipline and a drive to make the world a better place for his children. (He has a nine-year-old son Reegan and seven-year-old daughter Arnia.)

"It's my trying to be a good father that controls my music. I was making dad music before I was a dad!"
Hip hop in New Zealand is always bubbling under the surface and although some inroads have been made in recent years, it remains apart from the mainstream. While Che Fu's album went platinum (15,000 plus copies sold), rock albums by Stellar and The Feelers have sold four times as many copies, due in part to their slotting more easily into commercial radio formats. King Kapisi's Silver Scroll win could have been a sign of hip hop being more accepted into the mainstream, but Daryl says it does not even scratch the surface.

"Look, I won three awards in one year and got not one cover of a shitty magazine after that, no endorsement, nothing! The industry is run by a bunch of rats.

"All hip hoppers in this country are killing each other to grab the crumbs that the redneck paedophiles leave on the table. There's no major budget for King Kapisi, he's signed to Festival. I know 11, 12 maybe more good hip hop acts around the country who deserve half a chance but they will never get a chance because they're not 14-year-old white females."

While Daryl can let the vitriol fly, he is keen to emphasise that his anger at the industry is not something that keeps him awake nights.

"I don't carry it with me. The reality is if you are going to be creative and spread healing through art then little devils just can't stop you. They might control the country and the industry but they can't control your ability to create."

And as for the accusation often levelled that hip hop isn't ‘real' music: "I still can't read a note of music. The other day I was on Waiheke Island with one of my mates who was tuning his guitar and he goes ‘Bro, bro give me an E on the piano" and I'm like ‘What? Is that a black one or a white one?'. The rules of making music in hip hop is there are no rules. I've been dissed like that, ‘Oh, he's singing in C major with a bass line in C minor, oh what an idiot.'. All I can say is ‘poor dudes'."

Poor dudes indeed. As the catchline of The Altruist says: ‘Wake up!'


Saturday, July 11, 2020

Ring The Alarm playlist, 11 July

Brassroots - Good life
Johnny Hammond - Fantasy  (Marc Mac Beatdrop version)
IG Culture - Girl you need a change of mind
Isley Brothers - Footsteps in the dark (Gabriel Rene remix)
Roy Ayers - Funk on the hole (Platinum Pied Pipers remix)
Julien Dyne - Falling down
Colman Brothers - El Nino (big band mix)
Rusty Bryant - Fire eater
Claudia Lennear  -Everything I do gonna be funky
Lady - Get ready
Natural Bridge Bunch - Pig snoots pt1
Joyce Jones - Help me make up my mind
Tami Lynn - Mo Jo Hanna
Young Holt Unlimited - Wah wah man
La Belle - Moon shadow
Chaka Khan - Get ready, get set
Scrimshire - Everything you say (LV remix)
Beat Pharmacy feat Spaceape - Ghostship
Lee Scratch Perry - God smiled (Moody Boyz remix)
Rootical Sound - Gift of dub
Tenor Fly - Mind weh yu seh
Tanya Stephens - Need you tonight
Hugh Masekela - Don't go lose it baby (dub)
George Clinton - Do fries go with that shake
Ardijah - Jammin'
Ryuichi Sakamoto - Riot in Lagos

Saturday, July 04, 2020

Ring The Alarm playlist, 4 July

The Stance Brothers - Resolution blue
Idris Muhammad - Express yourself
Charles Keynard - Reelin' with the feeling
Speedometer - Soul safari
The Dap-Kings - Nervous like me
Scone Cash Players - Canned champagne
The Family Daptone - Hey brother
Willie Mitchell - Sugar T
The Magic Tones - Together we shall overcome
Impressions  -Woman's got soul
Sonny Knight and the Lakers - Sugarman
Darondo - Luscious lady
Roy Ayers - We live on Brooklyn, baby
Edwin Birdsong - Rapper dapper snapper
Funk Fusion Band - Can you feel it
Lord Echo feat Mara TK - Put it in my head
Recloose - Solomon's alive
Boozoo Bajou - Divers (Funky Lowlives mix)
Biggabush - Sousaphunk (Diesler and Bigga remix)
Patato Y Totico - Dilo como yo (Antibalas remix)
Ruts DC - Rhythm collision (RSD remix)
Horace Andy - Cuss cuss (RSD version)
LV - Globetrotting
Cooly G - Love dub
Massive Attack - Risingson (Underdog remix)

Wednesday, July 01, 2020

Southside Of Bombay interview (1999)

 
Southside of Bombay


Southside Of Bombay: Still Running


By Shaun Chait, NZ Musician, vol8 no3 Jun/Jul 1999  [note: Kevin Hodges is Kevin Hotu]

If only all interviews could be like this. It’s a pleasant enough early May afternoon, I’m sitting in a Wellington cafe with Southside Of Bombay’s Kevin Hodges and manager Teresa McGregor, and the only reason I’m having difficulty getting questions out is because every time Hodges tells a story to punctuate his answer, we all fall about laughing.

Southside’s music has a warmth and welcoming vibe to it that puts the listener at ease, and it’s no real surprise that band co-founder Hodges shares these traits. So here I am, trying to lay off the giggles long enough to enquire about the Southside story.

The seven strong line-up of today is markedly different to that which won a Wellington band competition way back in 1990, less than a year after coming together. Original members Hodges (tenor sax), Joseph Fa’amaoni (guitar, lead vocals), and David Fiu (trumpet, lead vocals) have remained with the band throughout its 10 year career. A fourth original, Ranea Aperahama, has recently rejoined the band. Hodges says at least 20 musos have been part of the group since its inception, and usually Southside runs with an eight-strong ensemble.

The band debuted in 1990 to a full house at Wellington’s Paisley Park. Hodges reckons the music scene was quite different then: “In those days you could play three different places on three consecutive nights in Wellington, and guarantee full houses. It was good for the spirit and good for the pocket – it really urged us on as to where we could go next”.

They toured the North Island extensively and recorded two songs at Word Of Mouth as part of a band competition prize. One of those songs drew immediate attention.

“Shortly after that, Ian Morris heard us play at a varsity orientation gig”, Hodges explains. “He was blown away by the song and approached me and said ‘I wouldn’t mind recording that, but with a few conditions’.”

The reworked version, released on Trevor Reekie’s Pagan Records, was called What’s The Time Mr Wolf, and became their first single in 1991. Southside remained with Pagan until 1997, when they switched to Tangata Records.

Hodges has nothing but praise for Reekie: “He’s taught me a lot. He would fax us and say ‘maybe you should just shut your eyes and jump in with both feet’, and we did that a lot of the time.”

‘Live In Aotearoa’, Southside’s recently released debut double CD, produced by Nigel Stone (who Hodges describes as ‘the type’ of guy that every group craves’) features live versions of the band’s greatest hits and a shorter studio CD. It comes after five successful singles.

“Out of those five singles, in order, Mr Wolf went gold (staying on the charts for an astounding five months), All Across The World won something at the ’94 New Zealand music awards, Kia Mau took out two awards in ’96, Umbadada won as well, and Running … is still running,” boasts Hodges.

Mr Wolf has gone on to become a true New Zealand anthem, and although Hodges is rapt with the reaction, he has an amusing anecdote to tell: “We were blown away by what was happening with us then. A good way to describe it is ‘woooaaaahhhhh’. But the first time I saw it on TV I was pissed off. It was on the programme Marae, and somebody hadn’t locked the speed on properly, so it was slowing down and speeding up (gives graphic demonstration), and this is on national bloody TV! I was fuming. When it finished, our phone just went berserk and I said ‘I’m going outside to chop some wood’.”

Once I’ve stopped laughing, Hodges reveals the scars left by the episode: “It really dented my pride, really kicked me. I thought ‘how could professionals stuff it up so bad?’ That ruined it for me.”

Southside have practised twice a week at the same Kensington St location throughout their career, which given the size of the band, requires a ton of dedication and commitment. Hodges says it’s his passion for the music that has enabled him to stick it out over the past 10 years. When the topic of highlights comes up, he displays the same earthiness: “We were playing in a mall in Porirua in ’95, and kids from toddlers up were all totally getting into us. It really moved me to see that we are making an impression on their lives – that they were in awe of us. That made a huge impact on me. From then on I’ve realised that there are little wee ears coming up after us, and what we do now affects tomorrow.”

He also considers a time in Noumea with the band huddled round watching a giant cockroach a highlight. “That’s where our music has taken us. We’ve had hard times, that helps bring the band together. If we can’t enjoy ourselves offstage, we aren’t going to onstage.”

To release a double CD, let alone a live one, as a first album is an unusual step. Hodges agrees, but says the live experience is what Southside is all about. The band already have songs ready for their next album which they hope to do next year, but until then there’s this one, a national tour and hopefully a trip to Europe at the end of the year. And the grand scheme?

“World domination,” Hodges states, half mockingly.